Lisa Viviano and Dr. Liz brave a sensitive topic by sharing their experience with bladder leakage. They discuss how unexpected factors contributes to it, and how hypnosis helped them both immensely not just keep control but also feel more confident again that they can live without peeing themselves without warning!
The improvement that Lisa had in bladder control led her to change her career in the dental field and train in hypnosis. She became a “hypnosis consultant” herself. She talks about how it has been “life altering” and gives tips for successful hypnosis.
And they both share their “magic phrases” that help them stay dry and in control!
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About Lisa
You can reach Lisa through her website https://www.lisaviviano-ch.com
Her email: ch.lisaviviano@gmail.com or her phone number: 267-808-1533
About Dr. Liz
Winner of numerous awards including Top 100 Moms in Business, Dr. Liz provides psychotherapy, hypnotherapy, and hypnosis to people wanting a fast, easy way to transform all around the world. She has a PhD in Clinical Psychology, is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor (LMHC) and has special certification in Hypnosis and Hypnotherapy. Specialty areas include Anxiety, Insomnia, and Deeper Emotional Healing.
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Transcript
0:00:00 – Dr. Liz
Hi, Lisa, welcome to the Hypnotize Me podcast. (Hi, dr Liz, thanks for having me.) Absolutely, I was very excited to have you on because I think you’re going to make a difference in a huge amount of women’s lives. Because this episode is focused on women, I mean, obviously someone could listen for their girlfriend or wife or partner, whoever. I mean, obviously someone could listen for their girlfriend or wife or partner, whoever, but, but probably mostly women are going to be listening to this because it’s about bladder leakage.
0:00:31 – Lisa Viviano
Yes.
0:00:32 – Dr. Liz
Yes.
0:00:33 – Lisa Viviano
Yeah, A really big. I think it’s can be a secret for some of us because it can be embarrassing.
0:00:40 – Dr. Liz
Yeah, absolutely, yes, yes. So let’s talk about how we met and then how you started doing this work and tell people what kind of effects it has and all that good stuff. We’re going to get to all of that.
0:00:53 – Lisa Viviano
Okay, great. So yeah, I met you in Orlando at a hypnosis conference, the ICBCH hypnosis conference. It was my first conference. It was my first.
0:01:10 – Dr. Liz
Oh, I didn’t know that, okay.
0:01:12 – Lisa Viviano
Yeah, yeah. And we were at a table and I think one of us invited you to sit with us or you said can I sit here? Because a lot of people didn’t know each other and we just got talking about how we got into hypnosis, what brought us to become hypnotherapists, consulting hypnotists, that type of thing. And I was very impressed when I met you that with your vast background and knowledge and then just your belief and the knowing of the power of our subconscious mind and how we can really change it pretty easily. So then I think what occurred was that I started sharing my story of how I got into hypnosis.
So my quick background is I started out in the dental field and then I eventually progressed to being a teacher of dental assisting in the career in tech high school and then, when I had some life changes, I decided that I wanted to do something that could help people and as well, be kind of flexible with my schedule and location and stuff like that. So I had suffered with incontinence for a while, suffered with incontinence for a while. I believe when I gave birth to my son it kind of started where it sort of felt like I had a weak bladder and then I. It just got worse.
Uh, especially when emotions arise in my life stresses and different life changes came up, such as divorce, such as death, so anything that made me nervous. So what happened was I was seeking all different therapies for it and I ended up with my chiropractor and I mentioned to her, like you know, I’m struggling with this and she said why don’t you try hypnosis? And she gave me a card of a gentleman who did hypnosis. I never thought of hypnosis, never even experienced anything around hypnosis. So I I went, I trusted her advice and went to this man’s home and, like part of me was a little nervous about that, but uh,
0:03:56 – Dr. Liz
had you ever had hypnosis before that?
0:03:59 – Lisa Viviano
Didn’t know anything about it. I mean, maybe I saw a little bit of stage hypnosis, but I don’t even think that was live. That was like on TV or something. I just was never present to experiencing it. So I went to his home and it was just a really great process and the way my bladder control worked for me, or lack thereof, was kind of like little strange triggers.
So, I would pull up to the house after work and as I turn the doorknob to go into my house, I feel this urge to just go and I’d have to race into the bathroom like, not even greet the dog, just like race into the bathroom. And when I got home from hypnosis that didn’t happen. It was. It was the cure. I was blown away. That one session in my mind cured me, but then I was was a bad client because I didn’t follow through with the homework. I didn’t do much of what he had advised me to do to keep it going and looking back, I think, wow, even though I didn’t do much, I was pretty good for a good month or so. None of those triggers. That’s wow, I’m great. And prior to that it was really, really rough. It was, it was really altering to my life.
0:05:41 – Dr. Liz
I mean, at that point, before you went, were you like wearing pads, were you . . .
0:05:46 – Lisa Viviano
I was not willing to get too heavy into like big pads but I would wear like panty liners.
0:05:55 – Dr. Liz
Okay.
0:05:56 – Lisa Viviano
Yeah, yeah, I’m trying to recall because this story kind of shifts, because then I got back into it worse.
0:06:06 – Dr. Liz
Okay, let’s hear the worst then.
0:06:08 – Lisa Viviano
Yeah. So then I life got so crazy, so busy and I slowly slipped back into struggling. And and then I recall I had a extra set of panties in my drawer at work and I would wear scrubs to teach. So I would have a pair of scrubs there in my car too, like it was out of control, really bad, trying to limit how much I’m eating stuff like that. And I know my triggers were when stress would come up, you know, like I had a meeting or something. Then I would just feel like, oh, you know, losing it. Um, so then I forgot, and that was about four years in between.
Wow I forgot that, what I had done to cure it. So then I started on this whole cycle. I went to a pelvic floor specialist. I was doing a million Kegel exercises. I had the vaginal weights oh yeah Working with them. I was just doing everything possible. And so Then I kind of tapped into my divine source and I said guide me, to help me get, like, solve this problem. And then it came to me you did hypnosis four years ago, like don’t you even remember. So then I called him back and this time I went for more sessions, because that was only one session. I went for like four sessions. I followed through, was really great with it, really consistent, and learned how to do it myself self-hypnosis, and that really helped me. So since then I can say I’m about 90% cured. Wow, if something really massive is going on, like really a crisis, a trauma, I can say I might have a little problem. Okay, then I have to just take a step back and reflect on that and do my practice.
0:08:40 – Dr. Liz
Okay, so what was the home practice that he gave you?
0:08:45 – Lisa Viviano
Basically it was, as you’re familiar with self-hypnosis, really tapping into your imagination, which to me hypnosis is a lot of manifestation, meditation, as one of my clients says, on steroids. So really tapping in. And with other things that have come up in my life, I’m just constantly being reminded of how much I have to tap into my feelings around it and really see and imagine. So one of those examples is I had Achilles heel trouble and it was. It was awful. I couldn’t go up and down steps easily. I couldn’t walk real good, like it just hurt. Couldn’t walk the dog, it just hurt a lot.
0:09:41 – Dr. Liz
I had it recently due to um, I had to take around a Cipro, which is an antibiotic which caused Achilles heel tendonitis.
0:09:52 – Lisa Viviano
I would never even know that, oh my gosh. I wonder if I was taking an antibiotic then that’s interesting.
0:10:01 – Dr. Liz
It’s really painful. It is you feel like you can’t walk. I know I can’t walk.
0:10:08 – Lisa Viviano
I love to walk.
0:10:09 – Dr. Liz
Yeah, yeah Great.
0:10:11 – Lisa Viviano
I love to walk my dog and with my husband and all. So the saving grace was I could bicycle. That wouldn’t hurt me. So I was going to physical therapy and it was kind of like helping somewhat. And I’m doing my own self-hypnosis around it and I’m just getting really frustrated because I’m not seeing the results I want. And then I realized you’re not imagining it, All you’re doing is going through your words and just like a robot. So then I started imagining myself flying up and down the steps walking the dog.
Telling my husband or my friend like, yeah, I can go for a walk and just feeling like how good that’s going to feel Took about four days. I haven’t had the pain since. Once in a while I’ll feel a little tinge and I say to myself this will pass and it’s not eventful. Fantastic, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that’s really good. And then around the incontinence, like I was invited this was around the time I was divorcing. I had so much going on.
That was really rough in life Starting a new career, my mom had passed away, my dad had a stroke, I was divorcing, hurricane Sandy, everything all at once. And I was invited to a bar mitzvah in Nashville, like my best friend’s son, and I said that I would take her mother, who was in her 80s, and we went to the Philly airport. You made our way. I visited probably every restroom and this 80 year old never went until she arrived to her daughter’s house. Year old never went until she arrived to her daughter’s house. Wow. And so that was another thing. I was like, yeah, something has to change. Yeah, this isn’t right. So, uh, that was for the second round. Like then I I knew you know I gotta do something. But it was funny how I completely forgot what cured it.
0:12:33 – Dr. Liz
Yeah, and then you remembered. So that experience did it lead you to seek training in hypnosis? Is that how, eventually, you became a hypnosis consultant?
0:12:50 – Lisa Viviano
Yes, eventually I was in transition. My husband and I wanted to make some changes. He was thinking of downscaling what he did and we wanted to just make changes and not this was so helpful for me and learn about it. So then I got my training and that was in 2020. So perfect timing around that, okay, because it was a virtual training and just did that, and it’s been wonderful since then. Life altering totally life altering yeah.
0:13:36 – Dr. Liz
Yeah, it’s a wonderful, I think it can be a way, an avenue to help people. It makes a huge difference in their lives, so for me that creates a lot of meaning for me.
0:13:49 – Lisa Viviano
Yes, yes, absolutely. That’s how. That’s exactly how I feel around it and and I feel so blessed that it’s it’s easy to deliver virtually. It’s easy to do in person. Know how to do self-hypnosis and you’ve experienced it. It applies to everything that can crop up in your life.
0:14:23 – Dr. Liz
Yes, it can certainly help a lot of things, like we’re not going to regrow an arm, but smaller stuff it can certainly. I mean some of the larger stuff too. All kinds of gi problems, migraines, headaches, um cancer. There was a study that they had two groups of women with breast cancer and the ones who attended a hypnosis group lived 18 months longer on average. So it yeah, it’s incredible when you really look at some of the medical research, cause sometimes people think about it just for like, stop smoking, lose weight. You know things like that. Those are life altering for sure. Stop smoking or stop vaping. I do a lot of stop vaping these days. I mean that affects everything in somebody’s life, but it sort of feels like small beans compared to some of the medical things like cancer and burns and that type of thing.
Really so well, my side of the story is after that lunch, like I kept your contact information. I think you gave me a card. I also had your email. I think you had reached out to me about ADD or something like that, and so I kept your email because I was starting had reached out to me about ADD or something like that, and so I kept your email because I was starting to have some leakage and my best friend had like a ton, a ton. She was wearing a full on pad to go for like an hour walk or something and having to change it too. Yeah, during the walk. Yeah, it’s bad. It wasn’t too bad for me yet. I mean, after my kids I couldn’t jump on a trampoline for the life of me.
You know, nothing like that. But finally it got to the point where I was out to dinner with my husband one night and sneezed I think it’s. Oh no, I had a cough, that’s what it was. So before I sneeze I’d have to, like you know, do my keg off right, Just to be sure. But with a cough, forget it.
It was bad sometimes and I was thinking should I wear a panty line or a pad or something like that?
So I was out to dinner one night and I I had a cough and felt like, oh my God, like I just wet myself, Like I don’t even have a jacket to tie around my waist, but I would.
I would have like we used to do in middle school when, like our, you know, our period would come and you tie the jacket around your waist and be like all humiliated, yeah. And so after that incident, I reached out to you and said, hey, can you do this for me? Because I remembered that that’s how you had gotten into it, and it was incredibly effective, incredibly Like it went to almost zero for me, to the point where I didn’t really I don’t think about it that often anymore, Occasionally when I’m sitting in a certain position which is sort of like on the couch and relaxing and I have to sneeze or cough. It’s like, oh, like occasionally a little leakage, but hardly ever. Even so, I just found it incredibly effective and thought if more women knew about this it could help them. It could really change their lives, because it really does impact our lives.
0:17:50 – Lisa Viviano
It does and yeah, you just have to navigate like almost it’s a fear thing, I think. At least for me it was like because you’re scared, Are you going to have a problem and then what are you going to do? Or where is every bathroom when you’re out? Yes, If you go on a road trip, how many miles till the rest stop? And that’s really unsettling. It is Now with you. Did you feel like it connected to any kind of feeling inside you?
0:18:27 – Dr. Liz
I never identified like it’s related to stress, or it gets worse then, or it gets worse. I think I reached out before it got really bad, like I thought it was bad at the time until I heard like other people’s stories including yours I was like, oh mine’s, mine’s not actually that bad. So, yeah, let’s do this now before something like that happens. Yeah. Yeah, it was never like rushing to the bathroom, nothing like that. More those type of actions where I had to like sneeze or cough or brace or something like that.
0:19:03 – Lisa Viviano
Yeah.
0:19:04 – Dr. Liz
I’m trying to remember. If it was, I mean, it had to be a little more than that before. I think it’s really interesting. Like after we have a problem, I sometimes have difficulty remembering how bad it was before. Does that happen to you too? (Yes, yes, it does.) I think it was the volume for me, so it wasn’t even like frequency, it was just more like that dinner I felt like whoa, that’s not a little leak, that’s not like a spot in my underwear that’s going to dry, that’s like we have to leave the restaurant. You know, yeah, yeah, we have to leave the restaurant. You know, and I don’t know, with with um, the second husband, it’s like the only time he’s ever seen me use the restroom. This may be TMI for some people is when I was in the hospital and I had to after surgery, and even then I thought about asking the aid like no, he can’t do this. Like like you’re gonna have to do it because I don’t. I keep some things just private, I just like exactly.
0:20:09 – Lisa Viviano
I don’t want that whole like.
0:20:10 – Dr. Liz
I don’t know. Some people are way more open about that. Yeah, so it’s not like I could be like honey, I wet myself. We need to leave, like I didn’t want to say that.
0:20:19 – Lisa Viviano
You know, it’s like yeah, yeah, I mean, I eventually did tell him.
0:20:23 – Dr. Liz
but you know, it was that point where I reached out for help from you. Yeah, and I actually enjoyed the homework. The phrase I came up with. It modifies some in my mind, but I think the original one was I am dry and comfortable and fully in control. I am dry and comfortable and fully in control and so sometimes I will say that right before a sneeze or a cough. I’ll say it to myself and it works, it works.
0:20:54 – Lisa Viviano
You have to say that pretty quick, I do. I’m not saying it at the pace.
0:20:58 – Dr. Liz
I’m just more like I’m dry and comfortable and fully in control Achoo or in between right, yeah, that’s really good. It continues to help me.
0:21:10 – Lisa Viviano
Right, right, yeah, it’s a nice reminder. It is, it is. It’s a good reminder. Mine’s very simple, it’s just I’m okay, I’m okay. Yeah, simple, it’s just I’m okay. Yeah, like I feel like mine is a combination of how yours there’s a term, and I’m not able to recall it, about the kind of incontinence, so yours is sort of prompted by you know, like you said, jumping on the trampoline or the cough or sneeze. Mine’s like urgency With mine. Definitely it’s prompted with my emotions, yes. So that’s why I think simply saying I’m okay means like I’m okay, I’m safe. Yes, means like I’m okay, I’m safe. Yes, you know, there’s no reason to be scared with this emotion. Or you know, in this moment I’m okay. And taking that breath and kind of anchoring in those positive thoughts and those feelings.
0:22:15 – Dr. Liz
Yeah, I like that. Yeah, and I think that varies from person to person, Like when you come up with a custom phrase that’s put into a hypnosis that’s specific to you. I think that’s really important for what’s going on with this type of problem bladder leakage because it is influenced by so many different things. So sometimes people just try a download, a free download, or when they even pay for on the internet, that’s not custom to them and it misses that piece of like. Oh no, like. This varies by individual. So what is it for you that’s going to help you tell the subconscious mind you don’t need to leak, yes, you have full control basically yes, exactly what words are going to resonate with you?
0:23:07 – Lisa Viviano
and and, as well, I’m interested to see if you agree, dr Liz, that the words have to be the right words. Like I was taught, that if we say I will, if we say I will, will, is kind of it’s loose, it’s not like I am, yes, we’re going to. You want to phrase it in the present yes, I start the same thing, absolutely yeah, and and also ends with the feeling that you want the good feeling that you want, yes, mine, mine is always um, it’s easy for me to have control and I feel calm. Yes, right. So having that feeling, because then our subconscious it definitely wants to do what we want it to do. But the messages kind of get mixed sometimes and then I think it can become habitual, almost. So this is that retraining, you know. So it works out really well, giving us that strength and just that proof around it that it’s going to work and the confidence that you get from that, yes, agreed, and yeah.
0:24:32 – Dr. Liz
it is interesting because, as I began to read more about it, it’s like you’re not supposed to start wearing pads or panty liners or have changes of clothes, because it does teach your body like, oh, it’s okay, it’s okay to go now. It’s like, oh, that’s the last thing you want. You know Exactly, yes, but of course. I think, we all do that when we’re trying to figure out the solution before we really know, like, what to do. We obviously don’t want to walk around in a wet pair of panties or scrubs, right?
0:25:07 – Lisa Viviano
Right, right, exactly, yeah, yeah, it definitely gives us that message. I even read maybe um tmi, but you shouldn’t pee in the shower, really, because that’s not the appropriate place to pee, and it’s like it’s kind of, once again, you’re giving your body this mixed signal like standing up like women. Don’t go standing up, Got it.
0:25:35 – Dr. Liz
Yeah, oh, really interesting. I didn’t come across that piece, so it really is retraining ourselves, retraining our subconscious mind and the conscious mind like all right, pee in the toilet, that’s it, that only time. Yes, we’re the woods if we have to, exactly if you’re forced.
0:25:56 – Lisa Viviano
Yes, sometimes you just have to.
0:25:59 – Dr. Liz
Yeah, okay, interesting. Well, we’re coming to the end here, so can you let people know how to contact you if they’d like hypnosis for bladder leakage, or we could? What would the positive be?
0:26:13 – Lisa Viviano
hypnosis for um dry and comfortable yeah, exactly um hypnosis for complete bladder control and confidence there you go.
0:26:26 – Dr. Liz
hypnosis for complete bladder control and confidence. Okay, we’ve got the title of the episode now.
0:26:37 – Lisa Viviano
That sounds good. Yeah, how can they reach you? Okay, so my website is actually my first and last name, lisaviviano-ch.com, lisaviviano-ch.com, and my email is chlisaviviano at gmailcom and you can always text or call me at 267-808-1533.
0:27:11 – Dr. Liz
Lisa L-I-S-A, viviano V-I-V-I-A-N-O. V as in Victor V-I-V-I-A-N-O. All right, and that will be in the show notes and on my website if you want to contact Lisa. So thank you so much for joining me today and sharing your wisdom and your journey.
0:27:25 – Lisa Viviano
Oh, thank you. It was my pleasure and I hope that this helps people (Me too).
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