Dr. Skyler Hamilton is interviewed by Dr. Liz for an update about how she healed her Multiple Sclerosis (MS) as well as her work as a psychotherapist in Quantum biology and healing with hypnosis. She wows us with her explanation of quantum healing and how combined with hypnosis can change cellular pathways, people’s health, and ultimately their lives. She gives an easy way to begin this process at home for yourself.

Her original episode recorded in 2017, re-aired on 01/13/2023 (episode HM258 Best Of Decrease Symptoms of MS and Side-Effects of Chemotherapy with Dr. Skyler Hamilton).

Please note that hypnosis is not a cure for medical conditions but is discussed in this episode as a way to reduce side-effects and reframe treatment as healing and strength-giving.

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About Dr. Skyler Hamilton

Dr. Skyler Hamilton Ph.D., is a Mind Body Psychologist, specializing in brain-gut disorders and the somatization of stress, anxiety, and trauma. Dr. Hamilton’s methods include cutting-edge, evidenced-based techniques including neurolinguistic re-programming, psychoneuroimmunology, hypnosis, meditation, family systems and attachment theories. Her approach is evidenced based but is built upon a genuine, empathic bond. Dr. Hamilton has developed a unique evidence based neuroscience approach for treating inflammatory diseases. Her approach incorporates the power of the mind and Hypnosis for successful management of these extraordinarily difficult cases.

See more about her at https://www.drsky.net


About Dr. Liz

Winner of numerous awards including Top 100 Moms in Business, Dr. Liz provides psychotherapy, hypnotherapy, and hypnosis to people wanting a fast, easy way to transform all around the world. She has a PhD in Clinical Psychology, is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor (LMHC) and has special certification in Hypnosis and Hypnotherapy. Specialty areas include Anxiety, Insomnia, and Deeper Emotional Healing.

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[00:00:00] Dr. Liz: Hi everyone. Dr. Liz here. I hope you are doing well. This is interview two of two with Dr. Hamilton. Her first one was, Played last week on the podcast, episode 2 58, and that is actually a replay of her original interview, which was HM 51. It was taken down a couple of years ago because at the time Skylar was looking for jobs and didn’t wanna disclose her MS it is a major consideration when you have a history of a health problem, whether you disclose that to employers or not. And at the time she did not want to, so I took it down in the interview. I think I refer to it as episode like 21 or 23 or something, but it is actually, HM 51. Don’t go looking for it, because it’s not there.

Instead, check last week’s episode because now she said, it doesn’t matter to me. I’m in a very different place in my life, and we did the replay last week leading up to this interview. So that is, HM 2 58, episode 2 58. You can listen to her original interview about how she used hypnosis to heal her MS to put it into remission.

So today we get the update about what’s happened since then. And then she also talks to us about quantum biology and quantum healing and what role hypnosis plays in that. So it is a fascinating conversation. Personally and professionally, Dr. Hamilton is always fascinating to talk to, so I hope you enjoy it as much as I did interviewing her, and that is helpful for you to make some changes in your life that perhaps you’re wanting to make.

Alright I hope you’re healthy and safe, peace.

Interview: Hi everyone. Dr. Liz here. And my voice sounds a little funny because I’m still recovering from covid on like day five here, so you may hear that in my voice. Um, on the podcast today, we have Dr. Skyler Hamilton and we both have dogs. So you may hear some dog noises in the background of the interview, but hopefully they won’t be too distracting.

Dr. Hamilton is on the podcast very early on in episode 23, where she talked about having MS and how she has healed that with hypnosis. So she’s here to give us an update. So welcome to the podcast, Dr. Hamilton. 

[00:02:43] Dr. Hamilton: Hello. Thanks for having me again. I’m excited to be back and give you all an update. 

[00:02:49] Dr. Liz: Since then, that’s been a like, I don’t know, six, seven years. We are like friendly colleagues, friends, so we keep up with each other through the years. Tell the listeners who haven’t heard that podcast, just tell them, uh, briefly, like how you were diagnosed with MS and then how the hypnosis happened, and then where you’re at with it. 

[00:03:10] Dr. Hamilton: All right, so in 2002 I was diagnosed with, uh, multiple sclerosis, and it was progressing very, very quickly.

It was in now the hospital. It was primary progressive IV treatments, um, and ended up in a wheelchair after the birth of my second child. and I was losing vision in my left eye, so I was just deteriorating so quickly and I started envisioning my life in a wheelchair and what my wheelchair would look like, and I was getting sicker and sicker.

And I just, one day was done being sick and, and summarizing. It’s a series of events that led up to understanding what my secondary gain is. What was I gaining from becoming so sick so quickly? Mm-hmm. . And one day I just said, I’m. I’m just done and I thought, if I can create disease in my body with the thoughts and the stress that I’m under, why can’t I create wellness?

Why can’t I just shift my entire perspective of this disease? and create wellness. So I started imagining using hypnosis and found a hypnotherapist and started using the power of my mind to change my subconscious belief about myself, my false negative core beliefs. Mm-hmm. . And then I started imagining on a cellular change, um, this little Mario guy from Mario Brothers with a paintbrush painting in the myelin, in the, in the, the holes in my, in my brain, in my spine.

[00:04:39] Dr. Liz: Wow. 

[00:04:40] Dr. Hamilton: And fast forward, it’s, you know, 20 plus years. I have been, I haven’t seen a neurologist, I don’t know, that’d be 8, 10, 12 years, eight years. Um, I just had an MRI for a back injury from falling off a horse and there’s been no lesions on my spine. Um, no disease progression. I’ve been symptom free for so long and even lose count now. And I am the epitome of health and Mind, heart coherence.. 

[00:05:06] Dr. Liz: Wow, incredible. I am always just blown away when I hear your story , no matter how many times I’ve heard it. It’s just really incredible. And tell me this hypnotherapy, was it, uh, one session, was it over months? Was it a process you learned? Like what did that look like?

[00:05:22] Dr. Hamilton: So it started with what I now know as auto hypnosis. Uh, this before I had a skilled hypnotherapist, I was using my imagination when I fell asleep at night and when I woke up in the morning, and what I know now is I was in theta brain waves. Mm-hmm. . So I was just using my own imagination, a childlike wonderman imagination, my body healing.

Then I sought out a very skilled hypnotherapist, uh, who started accessing my negative false core beliefs of myself and. There’s usually typically six to seven common core beliefs we all share or interchangeably. Um, I’m unlovable. My primary was I’m not important. Mm-hmm. . And I’m unlovable. I’m Notworthy.

Those are my three. Were my three primary. Subconscious false belief. So working with the skilled hypnotherapist, I was able to rewire, literally rewire my brain and rewire these core false negative beliefs that were imprinted in my life the first seven years of life, and for every human. , you imprint your subconscious mind the first seven years of your life, because you’re walking around in a theta brainwave state.

Yeah. So through hypnotherapy I rewired my brain and rewired the concept of myself. I am valuable, I am lovable, I am kind, I am worthy, I’m important. So in order to heal myself, it wasn’t just positive thinking, that is a, you know, a hundred percent, that’s only 5% of it. Mm-hmm. , I had to heal the 95% of my unknown subconscious belief system through hypnotherapy.

[00:06:55] Dr. Liz: Mm-hmm. . 

[00:06:56] Dr. Hamilton: So that’s a process of like multiple sessions over time. It took about, I’d say a year.

[00:07:02] Dr. Liz: Oh, a year. Wow. Yeah. That’s like a year, like weekly or. Um, 

[00:07:06] Dr. Hamilton: I did hypnosis weekly for no three or four months, and then I learned auto hypnosis and did it mm-hmm. auto hypnosis, so I would say about a year in total, but maybe 20 hypnotherapy sessions.

[00:07:19] Dr. Liz: Okay. I ask because sometimes people think I, you probably get these calls too because Dr. Hamilton is a hypnotherapist herself. But sometimes people think it’s just like one session and I have to explain like, no, this is over time that we work together and we heal these beliefs about yourself. And then I think that the self-hypnosis part, like learning that skill yourself is a really important part of that as well.

[00:07:43] Dr. Hamilton: And Elizabeth, Dr. Dr. Elizabeth, 

[00:07:45] Dr. Liz: you can call me Elizabeth. Yeah, sorry. Skyler calls me Elizabeth. That’s totally fine. It is. 

[00:07:49] Dr. Hamilton: It’s so subjective. And this is what I tell my patient. , if you put the time in, you’re gonna save money in pocketbook and you have the power to heal your own mind. Yeah, I’ll give you the tools and you can do the work. Yes. We all have this unlimited potential. So it’s such a difficult answer. Well, how long? How long? And that’s when we see time. So linear. Yeah. And that’s when I start, really start educating empowering people. This isn’t a linear timeframe, that’s an old construct. This is just a fluid in present moment when you begin to heal your own.

[00:08:25] Dr. Liz: Very true. Yes. Yeah. And it’s, even our system is set up for that linear timeframe, you know, . So it is difficult to, to really explain that. But what’s really interesting is that people who have gone through the process, who have come in specifically to work on subconscious beliefs or healing, uh, disease process that stems from that, afterwards, they will say, like, I had someone say to me, oh, This is a transformative process.

Like that’s how it differs from C B T or you know, just general talk therapy. She’s like, this was transformative on a really deep level. And I said, yes, absolutely. But it’s really hard to explain that sometimes upfront to people. 

[00:09:10] Dr. Hamilton: It’s a cellular, literally a cellular upgrade in a rewiring of the brain. . 


[00:09:17] Dr. Liz: You are considered, um, very rare in the MS world. Yes, . Like I, I had someone recently that came to me to stop vaping. He had MS.. I shared your interview with him and I said, you might consider seeing her for the MS process. I don’t know if he ended up contacting you, but he looked at me, he’s like, and this can’t be cured.

And I said, well, I didn’t say cured, but I said, why don’t you talk to her and see what she has to say. , you know. But you would consider yourself cured? 

[00:09:48] Dr. Hamilton: Yes. Yeah. And you know, five years ago, I would never have used the word cure. I will unequivocally use the word cure now. Now I will not claim to cure other people.

Mm-hmm. , I do not. I have physicians that do that on my behalf. But yeah, I absolutely consider myself cured without a, a doubt. 

[00:10:07] Dr. Liz: What do you mean by physicians doing that on your behalf?

[00:10:09] Dr. Hamilton: I actually work in medical hypnotherapy. And Medical therapy and I will only see a patient once they’ve been cleared by a physician.

Um Oh, okay. And after their work with me, I have had, I don’t know, past six months, five people been labeled cured by the physician, whether it’s ulcerative colitis, uh, Hashimotos thyroid, mast cell activation. Um, it’s not my position cuz I don’t run the biometrics, I don’t run the testing so, Physician’s role to label that, not mine.

I just empower the patient how to do. . 

[00:10:44] Dr. Liz: Okay, got it. You know, I had another hypnotherapist who I interviewed that worked a lot in the medical field, and she was, um, much older. She was like in her late fifties, early sixties at the time. This was years ago, and she said like, we can’t use the word cure.

We’re actually not even allowed to. But she’s like, but you tell me if someone comes in with IBS and then they haven’t had an episode for 10 years. That’s, that’s cured . You know, . And she’s like, even though we’re not allowed to say it, and, and I was like, yeah, she, that’s a good point. But I, I really love the point you make.

Like, as, um, PhDs medically, we really can’t use that term. Um, we’re not doing biometrics. Absolutely. It’s the physician’s role to say that. I really like that. 

I work with a fantastic team of physic. that are cutting use, cutting edge science and quantum biology to treat their patients. And they’re, they’re not stuck in the old paradigm.

They’re, they’re innovative. 

Wow. So let’s talk about quantum biology and let’s start with just an explanation of what that is. 

For people who haven’t heard the term, we typically think of science and medicine. In Newtonian physics, it means there is mechanical, physical parts that can change by either surgery or by drugs.

What quantum physics is, or quantum mechanics is, it’s how the universe operates. Quantum biology is the foundation of the universal field, and an easy, easy way to understand it is if you were to hold two magnet. And when you start getting ’em close enough, they begin to draw to each other. So quantum biology is that space in between the two magnets, the two physical parts.

Mm-hmm. that space between that electrical field that you cannot see, but you begin to see the change, they begin to draw to each other. So quantum biology is the space between the matter. Is that Okay? A very simple way of, of breaking it down it’s electronic field, which resides inside all of our cells.

Okay. Got it. 

[00:12:54] Dr. Hamilton: And the electromagnetic field is actually measurable, two to three feet. Some, some argue even more, but arguably two to seven feet outside of the human body. So what quantum biology is, it’s understanding the electromagnetic field within our cells. So we break down the word electromagnetic.

The sun is electric, magnetic is the earth, our body is an electromagnetic field. Mm-hmm. . So space in between the cell. So another way to look at is if. Quantum biology is not looking at the organ, the heart, the liver, the bone. It’s looking at the cells that make it up. So what’s inside a cell and what causes an electromagnetic field, and this is where the healing begins.

If you look at an atom, you look at the nucleus and then look at the electron and the way to, to describe the distance between the nucleus and the electron. If you were to put a basketball in the middle of an arena like a football, , that’s the nucleus. The electrons would be the nats circulating, circulating around the football field.

That’s how much of a distance there is from the nucleus to the electron inside an atom. So what is that space in between the nucleus and the electron? It’s an electronic field. It’s energy. It’s energy. It’s energy. Mm-hmm. ? Yes. look at our bodies. All we literally are is energy, frequency, and vibrations. So quantum biology is using that space between the cells to heal.

[00:14:29] Dr. Liz: Hmm. Okay. 

[00:14:31] Dr. Hamilton: So you’re changing the energy, frequency and vibration between the cells, like how the cells interact with each other? 

Yes. And that starts with our mind, our thought. . Okay. And it starts with, and the, this is the, that was the, the nano spectrum. Quantum biology is the understanding of subtonic particles, but how does that relate to our health?

So we’re gonna go, we’re gonna scroll out and go much, much bigger. Mm-hmm. , when you, you, you pull away from the, the electrons and the atoms and pull all the way back to our thoughts and they’re like, oh, positive thinking. But it’s more than that. And this is actually from Dr. Joe Dispenza. This is not from me.

Mm-hmm. , I’m going to summarize his research at this point in time. Mm-hmm. . So if you look at our thoughts, our thoughts create a chemical reaction. You have, uh, you think a, a cop car pulls up behind you. Oh my gosh, I’m getting pulled over. You have a thought. Mm-hmm. . And that thought faces a series of chemical reactions.

That chemical reaction creates a feeling. those feelings over time. If every time you see a cop car, you start having pulled up behind you start having a behavior behind them. Oh my gosh, I have to slow down my speed. Yes. And it becomes a habit. You see a cop car, you, you habitually know to slow down. Yes.

if you think of it in terms of how you live your life. So if you’re thinking, you’re thinking creates um, feelings, your feelings create a chemical reaction was chemical reaction, then over time begins to form a tempera. over time, feelings become a mood. Over time, moods become temperaments. Mm-hmm. , over time, temperaments become habits.

Yes. Habits then become a personality. Mm-hmm. , it’s like you say to someone, they’re always in a bad mood. He or she is always in a bad mood. Over time, your personality becomes your personal reality. Mm-hmm. , the way I spend my days is how I live My. So our thoughts create feelings. Feelings create chemical reactions.

Those chemical reactions infiltrate our entire body, every part of our body. So if you’re in a chronic state of flight, fight, or frozen, you’re in a chronic state of stress. Chronic state of cortisol, chronic state of adrenals. , those molecules of emotions from those thoughts infiltrate the entire body. We now know that we can store trauma, stress, cortisol, adrenals in our body for up to three generations.

[00:17:03] Dr. Liz: Whoa. Yeah, that’s a lot. 

[00:17:04] Dr. Hamilton: So you look at, when you look at how the body stores stress and trauma, it creates dis-ease within the body. So your thoughts create a feelings. Your feelings create a mood. Your mood creates a temperment. Then your personality’s changed. Now your body’s in a state of dis-ease. It’s in a chronic state of fight, flight, or frozen.

Mm-hmm. . When you can begin to access this subconscious mind and start changing the way that the body responds to the thoughts. That’s when you can begin to heal your body on a deep cellular level. And this is when traditional psychotherapy doesn’t always work. Yeah. I’ve seen therapists for 10 years.

Because you’re talking, you’re talking and talking about the conscious mind. Mm-hmm. What people aren’t doing is understanding the subconscious mind, the biology underneath it, how our thoughts create reality. And another way to look at it. We all understand the placebo. Yeah. There’s a study down done where, you know, arbitrarily 20 people were told when they took this cancer treatment that um, 10 of them will lose their hair.

Mm-hmm. , well, all 20 of ’em were given the placebo and 10 literally lost their hair. 

[00:18:14] Dr. Liz: Yeah. Yeah. There’s a lot of placebo studies. I think about it with the knee research, like a knee, knee surgery, which is a famous one where they took the control group and pretended that. did knee surgery on them and even made the inci incision and all this stuff, right?

And they ended up, um, better functioning everything than the group who actually had the knee surgery. , I’m thinking about this in my left knee aches. I think about this study , 

[00:18:44] Dr. Hamilton: Conversely, it’s called the nocebo. The nocebo effect is when we believe something is wrong. Our belief system then creates disease. Yes, over a period of time, it creates disease.

[00:18:56] Dr. Liz: Yes, absolutely. 

[00:18:58] Dr. Hamilton: If you think about the subconscious belief, I’m unlovable. I’m not worthy. I’m not good enough. I’m so stupid, I’m so fat, I’m so ugly. No one loves me. We have arbitrarily 60 to 80,000 thoughts a day. Arguably how many? We have 70% of those thoughts, and most humans are negative. Yeah. So if you have 60,000 thoughts a day, they’re negative.

You are releasing chemical reactions throughout the body that are creating disease in the body. Yeah, that’s biology. 

[00:19:31] Dr. Liz: Yes. Fascinating, fascinating and hopeful. I do believe like a good C B T therapist can get there in a much longer. Timeframe actually. But, um, but I think hypnosis, again, you’re talking about time that you’re working with someone, but it’s not 10 years typically, you know, you’re talking six months a year or something like that to where the person is really healing on a much deeper level. than the talking. Just the talking. 

[00:20:02] Dr. Hamilton: Agreed. Well, so it’s even could be as shorter than six months. I, yeah. Can a 40, a 40 year old patient who has something called mast cell activation. Mm-hmm. , when she eats almost any food, she had anaphylactic reaction, had to have an EpiPen. Wow. She had an anaphylactic.

After a third session, she could introduce 80% more foods. Yeah. Very quickly.

[00:20:25] Dr. Liz: Yeah, I believe it. Yeah, mast cell. I am actually familiar with that, um, from another area that I know about, and it’s extremely rare, but it affects your life so much. It really does. And again, yes, it could be much faster than six months, let’s say.

But it’s certainly faster, I believe, than C B T. C B T isn’t healing mast cell typically. It’s giving support. It’s changing. Changing how you think about some things doesn’t get to those subconscious beliefs. It really is a conscious type of process. I mean, again, with the caveat that you get a really skilled C B T therapist. They can get there sometimes. And thinking of like David Burns out in San Francisco, who can do, you know, a two hour session, a person feels done, but typically that’s not the therapist you’re getting someone with like 70 years of experience, right. . 

[00:21:19] Dr. Hamilton: Yeah. C B T is highly effective. It does take a little bit longer, um mm-hmm. and this is, and C B T can be effective in this way, but I do prefer other modalities that really understand the way the, the, the neuroscience behind it. But there’s a saying, I do not mean political when I say this. Mm-hmm. . But what does it mean to be woke in a very non-political sense? It’s when you become consciously aware of your subconscious thought.

When you’re able to become consciously aware of your subconscious thoughts, you can change your biology. 

[00:21:51] Dr. Liz: , it is really interesting, and I think you were at this seminar, the one that, that, um, Dabney Euwen gave. , were you at that one? Okay. And he, he’s no longer alive. He passed away a couple years ago, but I remember him saying like, you can do this process yourself.

You go into your own hypnotic trance. And most, this was a seminar for hypnotherapist, so most of us are very skilled. going into a trance. We can go pretty quickly. and he said, ask yourself the questions, listen to the answers. And it’s like, in that way, I think you can learn to access the subconscious thoughts, um, that come up.

Now, whether you choose to listen to them or not is a whole different matter though, . Yeah. It’s like, oh geez, I really want that answer, you know? 

[00:22:44] Dr. Hamilton: Yeah, so true. Because we operate. , 80, 90% of our day playing a tape recorder, the back of our mind, which is subconscious. Yes. And then you become aware of, oh my gosh, I’m calling myself typical woman ..Is, I’m so .Fat. That’s just, I’m fine. Of 70 pound woman. She’s saying to herself, I’m so fat. That’s indicative of many women. Oh my gosh, I’m so fat. And you become aware of it. Oh, I’m so stupid. I shouldn’t be saying that about myself. Well, now you’re beating up your subconscious mind and it’s causing more distress and disease and distress response in the.

[00:23:16] Dr. Liz: From my perspective, after going through, um, a very similar process that, that you went through the, what both of our mentors called Core healing, and now I just really consider it hypnosis, , like regressive hypnosis, I dunno, however you wanna call it, doesn’t really even need a label. But after going through that process myself, Those subconscious beliefs completely shifted.

So let’s say before it was 90% of my day that I felt self-loathing, it really shifted to like the occasional thought that then I could catch of like, oh, what’s going on here? Why am I feeling that way? Um, let me take a look at it. But most of my day, even now, and this has. I don’t know, five years or so that I did that.

Even now, most of my day is spent more, um, in appreciation, gratefulness, the positive stuff going on. 

[00:24:14] Dr. Hamilton: So, you know, it’s fantastic you mentioned that because that is the vibration that literally rewires the brain and the cellular structure, and it’s called transmutation of energy. So if you’re subconsciously going, I hate myself, I’m not worthy, I’m not lovable, you’re emitting a very low frequency vibration that is measurable, just like you measure your heart rate and measure your heart, your Eek G, or an EEG with a brain.

These negative thoughts actually have a frequency to them. So when you 

[00:24:45] Dr. Liz: Do they really? 

[00:24:47] Dr. Hamilton: Oh, yes. And it’s actually measurable. Two to three feet outside the human body, the heart, but your heart, 

[00:24:53] Dr. Liz: how are they measuring it? Like two to three feet away? 

[00:24:56] Dr. Hamilton: So there’s Dr. Joe Dispenza is the cutting edge of neuroscience.

Mm-hmm. , uh, the quantum field. In the quantum understanding. He is running these, ugh, these mind-blowing seminars, which I’ve attended. One these mind-blowing seminars where he’s using, um, electromagnetic devices to measure the, he calls an energy center, heart chakra, but he used the term energy center where the heart, if you put it,

If you measure the heart, there’s these instruments that can measure it two to three feet outside the human body. In horses, it’s 20 to 30 feet. Really? Yes. That’s why, that’s how birds and horses, they run and, and pause and packs and flocks. Um-huh. the human body. That’s why when you walk into a room and something about it just gives you a call.

Bad juju. You’re like, Uhhuh, , bad juju. We don’t know what it is. Yeah, actually can physically feel other people’s energy. That’s why sometimes you feel good in someone’s presence. Other times you feel bad because a human body, all it is, is frequency, is ener energy. If you break it down to the quantum part of it, think of the electrons electromagnetic field.

So that’s measurable. . 

[00:26:02] Dr. Liz: Yeah. Yeah. And I think an easy way to relate to this is sometimes when people are like house shopping or apartment shopping and they walk into a place and structurally it meets all the requirements, but it just feels like, Nope, this is not it. Or this was a very happy home, or, um, or it wasn’t.

[00:26:22] Dr. Hamilton: Yeah, absolutely. And then it goes back to the magnet. The, the, the having two magnets. You can’t see it, but there’s a field there. It’s a magnetic field. It’s the quantum field. Okay. When they’re doing an e EEG of those negative thoughts, I can actually see that on the eeg is what you’re saying? Lower vibrations, yes.

Okay. You can actually, so think about, I’m, I’m trying to keep it so it doesn’t sound so, uh, disorganized, but when you were operating in the sad, depressed state, feel low, but when you’re operating, let’s say you have a great Christmas morning or Hanukah morning, or just some something where you just brings you joy.

Mm-hmm. , you’re operating from a higher vibration. A sense of gratitude is a frequency that resonates throughout the entire body and the The brain and the heart are electromagnetic impulses, thought related, magnetic heart impulses, electrical wiring. When you’re experiencing this sense of gratitude, The electrical impulses from the mind, the brain, electrical impulses from the heart become in coherence like a metronome operating at the optimal pace.

[00:27:30] Dr. Liz: Ah, interesting. 

[00:27:32] Dr. Hamilton: When we experience a sense of gratitude, when I teach people, when you first start this process, well, how do I rewire my brain? I literally start with fine gratitude. 

[00:27:42] Dr. Liz: I just said this and I had client saying, I just want five minutes of, of like peacefulness happiness. And I said, well, that is easy.

He’s like, what? I said, that’s super easy. Start writing a gratitude list. That’s it. It shifts you into a more positive state. You will end up feeling peaceful or happy at least during those five minutes. But we know from research for far longer and he is like, oh my God, like a year ago that would’ve sounded really cheesy to me.

But he is like, but I trust you, because you helped me so much, I’m like, I’m telling. Like, it is so easy, you know, you’re not, you don’t even need, you didn’t really need to pay me a lot of money to teach you that , but here you’re so, 

[00:28:28] Dr. Hamilton: yeah, and that’s it you’ve hit the nail precisely on the head. It’s a state of being.

Yeah. It’s a, well state of how we live our days is how we spend our life. And if you live your days in stress, your life is stressed. Therefore, your health is gonna be indicative of that. Yes. If you live your days in gratitude for the tiniest thing, like I was walking down the stairs, I’ve had two a c l replacements and I was like, thank you so much for me, my ability to walk down these stairs.

It’s just taking three seconds. Yeah. To just get the coherence in my frequency of my body to just feel good. 

[00:29:05] Dr. Liz: Yes. Yes. And by the way, for the listeners, if you exchange gratitudes with someone, like you have a gratitude partner, the effects of that, um, positivity actually more than double

[00:29:20] Dr. Hamilton: . Yeah. , I am gonna, girl, I am just gonna just highlight that for those in the back room.

Say it even louder. So true. 

[00:29:30] Dr. Liz: And I have a friend where we, we send our gratitude every day and it’s not always, you know, first thing in the morning. Um, and of course we miss a day here or there. We’re not trying for perfection here, but it is a really interesting process of, yeah, I am doing this for myself, for her, for both of us to feel more positive throughout the day. There’s also research around, um, chronic pain, how it decreases the pain levels for anyone dealing with chronic pain. Um, just simply writing that gratitude list. That’s it. , it’s so easy, right? I mean, to us it looks so easy, but once you begin doing it, it actually does become easier. So, like you were saying, then you begin to feel like your life is easier.

[00:30:17] Dr. Hamilton: So what, how, how I started when I was going through a difficult time in my life. Um, I had to start practice all that I’ve, all that I’ve known. Uh, walking through a couple of dark valleys, shadow nights, just horrible times. I’ve had, okay, go back to the basic, go back to what you know, and I couldn’t feel gratitude, but I knew this was the process to get back to being a mind, heart, coherent.

So I’d write down. I am grateful. . I have my friend’s name. I’m grateful for my dog. I’m grateful for my children. I’m grateful for my knees. I’m grateful for my breath, but I couldn’t feel gratitude. I, but I could write it down. I am grateful for Yeah. But writing down the statement, I am, you begin to take ownership.

Um, yes. Whenever they say I am, we own something. I, I am sick. Well, you just took ownership of being sick. Yes, I have ms. We used took ownership of ms. I always say I was diagnosed with. I never said I have ms. Oh, you say I am grateful. You are taking ownership. If you take ownership of that for a week or two weeks, or three days or two days, one day, you’re gonna actually say, I feel grateful.

Yeah, even grateful is very different than I am. Grateful. Feeling grateful elicits a neural biological. That begins to rewire our brains and our bodies and our energy frequency and vibrations. So if you don’t feel grateful yet, which is very difficult to, to get to in very dark times, yes. We’ll start with I am grateful.

[00:31:50] Dr. Liz: Yeah, it’s a great tip. And the brain will start looking for. to start feeling grateful, 

[00:31:56] Dr. Hamilton: Because I am as this state of being, be very mindful of the words that you choose. I am sick, I am chronically ill, I have a disease. I am a victim. Because the body will memorize what the brain has told it. Yes, yes. It will begin to look for that.

Absolutely. Yeah. And you can prime yourself for that. You can say to yourself, Look for the, I’m going to look for the smallest positive change today. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. I start off, sorry, please go ahead. No, go ahead. Um, I used to say when I was, I had to restart this so to, to give a summary to listeners.

I healed myself from MS, but then I went through another very, very dark, dark time in my life as I had to leave a very abusive situation. . So I had to start all over from scratch. I was having, they had, they wanted to put a pacemaker in my heart and I was like, no, no, no, no. Wait. Gimme six months. I know how to do this.

My electrical wiring in my heart was all off, and it was as a result of the abuse. So I was like, wait, gimme six months. This is what I do. So I had to literally start from the bottom up all over again. So during this process of just tearing it down and starting from, It was just beginning to imagine how I wanted to feel.

I couldn’t comprehend what peace felt like. I couldn’t comprehend what gratitude felt like, but if I kept saying, I am a victim, I am sick, I have a heart condition, I would become that. So I knew in order to become something different, I had to change. My, my neurolinguistics, my, my language of my brain. Yes, I am healthy, I am well, I am healing.

Yes, that’s because I couldn’t feel it yet. I couldn’t feel any of those things. I couldn’t feel anything. I was numb, broken, despaired. I couldn’t feel mm-hmm . But I knew how to begin to feel again, was just by changing my language. Then my body would follow with the feeling eventually. 

[00:34:05] Dr. Liz: Yeah. Incredible. Incredible. And evidence does support that. 

[00:34:10] Dr. Hamilton: Absolutely. The body will eventually catch up to you, to your mind, and this I’m gonna cite Joe Dispenza again, and I’ll give a list at the end of, of, you know, research as I’ve based my modality on, but the, the body cannot tell the difference of what the brain is imagining or experiencing.

Yeah. And that’s when we wake up from our dream, it feels like we really have fallen off a cliff. And your body’s responding and all you do is imagine it. So throughout the day, if you’re imagining all these horrible things, well, what if this happens? What if that happens? What if I get fired? What if I can’t pay my bills?

Your body’s in a perpetual state of fight find or frozen, which creates disease. Mm-hmm. . So, which, Even if you can’t feel it, you can begin to subconsciously rewire the brain by just thinking, I am healthy, I am healing, I am well, I am financially abundant, I am lovable. The feelings become part of the body, and that’s when the cellular quantum biology changes.

[00:35:08] Dr. Liz: Okay. Got it. It’s really incredible. So as a hypnotherapist, what are you doing to ratify that? Like are you exploring that with them? I mean, uh, to give you an example, I’ve it, in my practice, I used to just ask for like, 10 qualities that someone wants to be or feel. When I was just doing core healing and I realized like how valuable that was because it oriented people to how they wanted to be and feel.

So I began asking that as a standard intake question of like anyone who came to me for whether it was for hypnosis or not, of how give me 10 qualities 10 of how you wanna be and feel . 

[00:35:48] Dr. Hamilton: That’s exactly what I do. That’s so funny. I this. . So you know this, we don’t need to know people’s trauma and we definitely, trauma-informed care does not rehash it right.

How, how do you, people wanna talk about their past, and I understand that it’s very therapeutic and has many, many qualities, but I’m interested in how do I view your future? How do you wanna feel? Because I can get you to feel how you wanna feel. Yes. And that’s what that same questions I ask, how do you wanna feel?

I get how you feel, how do you wanna feel? Absolutely. Yes. And it is a shift for people because I think they are used to therapists who just wanna talk about the past. And I, I have the same reaction. I mean, maybe that’s why we become hypnotherapist. Yes, I need to know your story, but we are not getting stuck in it.

We are moving towards the future of how you do wanna be and feel, because I’m assuming if you’re here, you wanna be and or feel differently. , now you came in, this is why you’re seeing me. So we start there. Yeah. So in for hypnotherapy, how is it used? I, yes. The first question. It’s interesting, we hadn’t even compared notes on this.

I do the same thing. Tell me how you wanna feel. Yeah. And say, write down what, what they’re, what they’re saying. Because their language will convey to me what is wrong. Well, I’m just always so constipated and bloated. Mm-hmm. , I, I wanna feel relief. I know right there they’re, they’re in a frozen response because the GI track will always tattle tail what’s happening.

So, uh, constipated, somebody. Constipation and bloating means they’re stuck in frozen response.

I’ve got diarrhea. I’ve, I I’m scared to go out in public cuz I always have run to the bathroom. Oh, the toilets are okay. Now I know they’re in flight response.

Yeah. I’m just, my heart is always racing and I know they’re in flight response.

They’re really pissed off. How I wanna feel a relief. And then, so for hypnotherapy, it’s first thing, and Elizabeth, you know this, it’s, it’s raising their self-efficacy, their self-confidence to know that they have the power to heal themselves. That they are not a victim of what other people told them that they are.

Yeah. . So the second thing is understand what they wanna feel. The second thing is building up, we, we, we call ego state, building up their, their self-confidence. Mm-hmm. that they have the power to do this. So the second phase hypnotherapy is empowering. Yes. And then I’m just gonna break it down to formula and it’s, it then it’s understanding what inner child wounds that they’re still carrying that happen the first seven, eight years of life, and that’s where the subconscious programming comes in.

I’m unlovable, I’m unwanted. I’m not good enough. I’m not smart enough, I’m not pretty enough, and it’s getting to that inner child. ego, state work, healing those wounds, and then using quantum biology to catapult them into health that they didn’t even know was comprehensible.

Living in a perpetual state of joy and I, it’s actually called a quantum leap. Yeah. Yeah. And to, to really break this is the quantum leap equals transf transformation, right. On a deep cellular level. Yes. Yeah, it is really interesting because when you do that type of work, you do end up feeling feeling changed.

It is a leap. It’s not just like going back to your regular life and feeling the same way. Absolutely not. And I, I watch quantum leaps. Three, four times a week, and every time I kid you not, I start bawling like a baby. It is the most oh, I’m one of those therapists that cries. Absolutely. I cry for the joy, not the trauma.

I’m in my clinical brain, but when I see a transformation, I, I can’t be a doctor. I am a human witnessing this miraculous moment, and I sob with them. And what I see happen is they’re in the same room. Because I do virtual, they’re in their same room, same house, same car, same job, same family. But the world looks different.

[00:39:48] Dr. Liz: Yeah, absolutely it does. 

[00:39:51] Dr. Hamilton: And it’s, yeah. And the world is different. Like it is literally perceived differently by them, by your brain, by your body. , and this is a, a really good way to describe it, and many of our arachnophobia, please like tune this part out. But if you see a spider with like eight different eyes, there’s eight different perspectives or views to see the world.

And I will help the people hypnotherapist, we help the people find the exact right optimal lens to view the world, to have a state of being. Of enjoying each moment. Enjoy enjoying the moment to just find the right lens or the mind and the heart, or incoherence. The body’s incoherence. Yes. When you live in gratitude and you feel peace, the body just simply follows and you create wellness.

[00:40:39] Dr. Liz: That’s a wonderful, wonderful way to put it. Yeah. Doesn’t mean you don’t have to do the dishes. You still do, but , you love it. Some of the dishes may feel a lot better . 

[00:40:48] Dr. Hamilton: Yeah. I, I always say, oh, just get me through this human experience. I wanna get back to my happy place. . 

[00:40:55] Dr. Liz: Right. Well, the water may feel really warm and nice running over your hands. You may be very grateful to have a, a dishwasher or food or plates to wash because you had food. I. Insane. Well, you’re so inspirational, Skylar. Um, we are coming to the end of our time together, but thank you so much for being here. Do you want to give us some of the references? I know you cited Joe Dispenza. I don’t know if there’s others you wanna talk about and also let people know how to contact you. 

[00:41:25] Dr. Hamilton: Joe just spends a brilliant, brilliant work. I just highly recommend it to everyone. Um, anywhere that that strikes you, Click on the YouTube link. Uh, Bruce Lipton is how I started Biology of Belief. Yeah, it’s wonderful book .

Yeah. And if you wanna get a little more scientific, Candace Pert, she is the grandmother of, uh, Molecules of Emotion. She, a female started it all. Yep. She’s long since passed. But Molecules of emotion is a fantastic one to, to, to start with, but, and then if you’re healing from trauma or chronic illness, uh, Peter Levine is another one.

So Bruce Lipton , Joe Dispenza. , Candace Pert, and then Peter Levine or Levine. 

Yes. Those are are the four basics that I just tell everyone to start and YouTube is a great way to start. 

[00:42:13] Dr. Liz: Yeah, and Joe Dispenses all over YouTube. Um, he has the free ones on YouTube, but he also has paid files that, um, that I love. I think I listened to his morning one for about a year. Every morning while I was working out . That’s when I would do it. And. People imagine like you’re in a meditative state when you do that, but um, mostly I just listen to ’em when I work out. Like this is fantastic. 

[00:42:36] Dr. Hamilton: Yeah, I listen to it while I’m, I’m walking actually cause a lot of science behind walking and, um, yeah. So those are great starts and

I can be found, actually I’m on TikTok. Dr. Skye

[00:42:47] Dr. Liz: yes. I love your TikTok . I a big fan of TikTok. 

[00:42:51] Dr. Hamilton: So , I’m always no makeup in a baseball cap most of the time. 

[00:42:54] Dr. Liz: You can really give really good information on the TikTok. Um, a lot about narcissistic abuse, but also other stuff .

[00:43:03] Dr. Hamilton: Yeah. And just mind body healing. And then also, uh, drsky.net, my website. Okay, Dr sky.net. Wonderful. Well, again, thanks for being on the podcast again, and I’m always so grateful for your wisdom.

I’m very appreciative of you. Thank you so much, and allow me the opportunity to just help empower other people. I’m truly, truly appreciative.